Curse

Lorde · Dec 23, 2007, 07:21 PM // 19:21

I want to relieve some pressure from Dunkoro and want my Necro hero to Draw conditions and infuse it on their minions.

Question is... the hero AI will try to Draw Conditions from the minions making a infinite loop of Draw / Infuse / Draw / Infuse until the Hero runs dry?

Cathode_Reborn · Dec 23, 2007, 09:32 PM // 21:32

Havent tested it but im more than sure it wont happen during a fight....when any enemies are around, minions will never be the target of spells that heal/etc. Outside of battle it might be a little different.

If you wanna see heroes go stupid, give 2 of them "It's just a flesh wound", then make one use it on the other....they go crazy

Marverick · Dec 23, 2007, 09:47 PM // 21:47

I'm pretty sure they will use it on minions, unfortunately... seeing as they have a habit of throwing [skill=text]Protective Spirit[/skill] on every single minion within range.

Lima · Dec 23, 2007, 09:49 PM // 21:49

What condition removal skill are you using on your Dunkoro? I find that Martyr works really nice for condition removal skill, but i'm not sure if that effects the minions aswell. You should give it a try though, it might be what you're looking for.

Syntonic · Dec 23, 2007, 09:56 PM // 21:56

You can always use draw and plague signet. You might think it's a bit of a waste of an elite though.

Lorde · Dec 23, 2007, 11:32 PM // 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syntonic

You can always use draw and plague signet. You might think it's a bit of a waste of an elite though.

I guess I could use Draw Conditions / Plague Sending instead. My fear now is Olias spending way too much mana / life doing it.

But the idea of using Martyr + Plague Sending seems interesting, but I guess Spiteful Spirit is just superior.

blue.rellik · Dec 24, 2007, 02:46 AM // 02:46

Minions can't be affected by all conditions so that's a plus to using it

Moloch Vein · Dec 24, 2007, 03:12 AM // 03:12

This is incorrect if used with Infuse Condition.

blue.rellik · Dec 24, 2007, 04:09 AM // 04:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moloch Vein

This is incorrect if used with Infuse Condition.

Uhhh, are you talking to me?

Moloch Vein · Dec 24, 2007, 05:07 AM // 05:07

Yes. Infuse Condition will inflict conditions on minions even if they are not naturally able to suffer them.

blue.rellik · Dec 24, 2007, 09:06 AM // 09:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moloch Vein

Yes. Infuse Condition will inflict conditions on minions even if they are not naturally able to suffer them.

Re-read what I said

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue.rellik

Minions can't be affected by all conditions so that's a plus to using it

Plus.

Moloch Vein · Dec 24, 2007, 09:13 AM // 09:13

I read what you said. That's why I noted it was wrong.

Minions can be affected by all conditions if transferred to them by Infuse Condition.

Oh, and in response to the original question, it will not create much of a "loop". Minions are low priority and will only rarely be targetted by the MM hero for anything (well, except maybe Infuse Health

). I haven't actually noticed Olias use Draw on a minion, it might've happened but if it'd really create a "loop" I'd noticed.

Mitchel · Dec 24, 2007, 02:50 PM // 14:50

Golems can bleed.

blue.rellik · Dec 25, 2007, 09:14 AM // 09:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moloch Vein

I read what you said. That's why I noted it was wrong.

Minions can be affected by all conditions if transferred to them by Infuse Condition.

Oh, and in response to the original question, it will not create much of a "loop". Minions are low priority and will only rarely be targetted by the MM hero for anything (well, except maybe Infuse Health

). I haven't actually noticed Olias use Draw on a minion, it might've happened but if it'd really create a "loop" I'd noticed.

Oh I see, that I didn't know. I never noticed that about my minions but that was probably because I never clicked on them

Chthon · Jan 07, 2008, 07:06 AM // 07:06

I use infuse condition + draw condition frequently on my MB heroes to great effect. If Olias is hitting the minions with DC at all, he's not doing it enough to cause problems.